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Gad Saad on Empathy as Signalling

Gad Saad, Evolutionary behavioral scientist; author, Suicidal Empathy: Dying to Be Kind / / 0:55

Recognize that life is not a first-order world, but has a domino effect.

Video: Middle East Forum, Middle East Forum Podcast, September 28, 2026. Captions file (VTT)

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MEF speech-to-text, word-timed; edited only to withhold private names and to correct misheard public names, in square brackets. Timecodes are source time; each opens the source at that second.

  1. 35:19the illegal refugee knocks on the door, and I can do two things at that point.
  2. 35:24I could let in six million of them, and I will immediately be drowning in the
  3. 35:31dopamine because I am stroking my luxuriant hair in the mirror of moral preening and
  4. 35:36going, "Look what a good person I am. I just let in four hundred thousand Ahmeds into
  5. 35:41my society. I'm better than those people who would have judged them." So I got that
  6. 35:46dopamine hit. But in doing so, I'm stuck in what's, what I call the myopia of
  7. 35:51first-order effects, meaning there is a second-order effect and a third-order effect.
  8. 35:56If your society becomes majority Islamic, then we will have a different reality than
  9. 36:03the one that your children grew up in. So Don't succumb to the empathy-based dopamine
  10. 36:09hit. Recognize that life is not a first-order world, but has a domino effect.

Views expressed are the speaker's own.